Is raven the same as black because I also see same item in black?
Funny, we were wondering the same thing! So...it's like what black would look like if you washed it 50 times, but the material still looked and felt perfectly new. It's lighter than regular black...unless it's dark in the room, then it kinda looks like regular black. If you like black, this is the pant for you! Sorry, we really don't have a great answer for this. Hard Tail loves to come up with new and interesting names for sublte color variations. They should have named this "black?" I think.
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